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Fights from Law Enforcement

Jim asks Mike about a handful of fights that he’s been in as a police officer. Mike talks about his experiences early in life and how they led to him becoming a cop. This is not a complete police use of force episode but we scratch the surface and cover the basics. We also help apply those principles to self-defense. We touch briefly on de-escalation training and case law.

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LA Riots and Civil Unrest

Mike and Jim give a rundown of the Los Angeles Riots and discuss the warning signs and implications of mass civil unrest. We also look into the term ‘Boogaloo’ making the rounds on the internet.

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San Bernardino Active Shooter

In December 2015, a husband and wife who pledged allegiance to ISIS carried out an attack that killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in San Bernardino, California. The shooters fled the scene and engaged in a lengthy gunfight with police when they were located some time later. Lt. Gary Schulke of the SB Police Department was involved in that fight and shares the story of the event from start to finish, including accounts of the survivors and audio from the incident. The incident was the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States at the time post-9/11.

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First, a toast: This episode is dedicated to Airman First Class Kenneth “K3” Sturgill, an Air Force SERE (Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape) Specialist Trainee who perished in training as a result of heat stroke. K3’s father, K2, shares some stories about his childhood and the man he was. We learn about the mishap and what steps the Air Force is taking to prevent this sort of thing in the future. To wrap up, Mike and Jim talk a little about heat stress and how to mitigate heat related injuries in training and operational environments.

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Accident Report

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  1. Lisa LaDou Cherry

    Thank you so much for covering this topic and continuing the legacy of K3 and his lessons to all of us. I am also a graduate of PJOC but also am a close friend of the Sturgill family. K3 was an amazing role model to every person young or old that he had contact with. Sharing his story continues his reach at touching lives and helping others.

    • Mike

      It was our pleasure. Thanks for reaching out.

  2. Paul

    I’m a SERE Specialist and a PJOC instructor when able. I’ve met K2 and his wife and I hope they continue to keep his memory alive. He would have been a great brother to work with. Also thanks guys for the great audio/topic.

    • Mike

      Thank you! Appreciate the work you do, SERE and otherwise. -Mike

    • K2

      Thank you for paying it forward through instructing at PJOC/APJOC. No Worries about us keeping K3’s memory alive, there are so many that he inspired and motivated, that’s taken care of 🙂
      As for us, we will do what we can to support the Guardian Angle Platform that he loved so much.


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