EPISODE 2

Using Rules to Manage Risk

Fights from Law Enforcement

Jim asks Mike about a handful of fights that he’s been in as a police officer. Mike talks about his experiences early in life and how they led to him becoming a cop. This is not a complete police use of force episode but we scratch the surface and cover the basics. We also help apply those principles to self-defense. We touch briefly on de-escalation training and case law.

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LA Riots and Civil Unrest

Mike and Jim give a rundown of the Los Angeles Riots and discuss the warning signs and implications of mass civil unrest. We also look into the term ‘Boogaloo’ making the rounds on the internet.

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San Bernardino Active Shooter

In December 2015, a husband and wife who pledged allegiance to ISIS carried out an attack that killed 14 people and wounded 22 others in San Bernardino, California. The shooters fled the scene and engaged in a lengthy gunfight with police when they were located some time later. Lt. Gary Schulke of the SB Police Department was involved in that fight and shares the story of the event from start to finish, including accounts of the survivors and audio from the incident. The incident was the deadliest terrorist attack in the United States at the time post-9/11.

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One of the themes we discussed in our last episode was that just because something is technically legal, or not against the rules, that doesn’t necessarily make it a good idea. We build on that theme today and talk about how we use rules and guidelines to manage risk and shape our decisions. We talk about the risks associated with car chases, the 21 foot rule, and how some parents worry more about having a gun in the house than a pool in their backyard. We also share one of our guiding principles from Col. John Boyd about training and risk management: People, Ideas, and THEN Hardware, in that order!

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Links: 

Boyd, The Fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War

The Signal and the Noise

The Unthinkable

Pearl Harbor: Warning and Decision

Jim’s article on Lessons Learned from Tactical Aviation (also available on Facebook here)

Intro Music credit–Bensound.com

 

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